When I heard about his latest project, co-written with Tracy L. Carbone, I asked them about it. My thoughts following the interview.
What’s THE PROTEUS CURE about?
TRACY: It’s a medical thriller that’s hard to talk
about without spoilers. It’s about a
brother and a sister, Bill and Abra Gilchrist, who’ve developed a cure for
cancer – all kinds of cancer. That
sounds impossible because there’s a cancer for every tissue in the body, but–
PAUL: Tracy came
up with an idea for an omnipotential stem-cell therapy that replaces tumors
with non-cancerous cells. Since omnipotential stem cells can become any tissue,
they can overcome any tumor. The hitch
in THE PROTEUS CURE is that they don’t stop there. And this is where the spoilers begin, so this
is where I stop.
TRACY: We could have gone lurid with people turning
into mutants–
PAUL: Like a
third eye and all that–
TRACY: –but that
wasn’t the idea. I think where we went
is much scarier, because it can’t be laughed off. It’s deeply unsettling and disturbing because
you can see how it might happen. The
issues we address are about parenthood and identity.
PAUL: The
Gilchrists aren’t evil. They’re curing
people of cancer. There’s just this one
annoying side effect, which they’ve found a way to mask. But Murphy’s Law is inescapable and something
goes wrong during the clinical trial.
They’ve got to scramble to cover it up–
TRACY: –because,
depending on your personality, some side-effects are acceptable and some are
not. Some people will be okay with the
side-effect because they’re now cancer free.
But others will be calling the FDA and malpractice lawyers.
PAUL: One of the
Gilchrist’s will do anything to cover
it up. After all, it’s a cure for
cancer. You can’t allow someone to
derail a cure for cancer! And that’s
when our oncologist heroine gets caught in the middle.
Why are you indie
publishing THE PROTEUS CURE?
PAUL: We had an
offer from my publisher that I thought low.
In the past my collaborations have never sold as well as my solo
novels. I don’t know why. The reviews are just as good. Maybe my readers don’t like to see someone
else’s name of the cover. Whatever the
reason, the sales figures never match up and the offer reflected that.
Tracy and I talked it over.
In the old days (like five, six years ago) we’d have been on the short
end of a take-it-or-leave it proposition.
That’s no longer the case. But
this was her opportunity to be published by one of the Big Five. If she said yes, we would have done it. (She has a big emotional investment in this
book – she came up with the seminal idea, after all – and I wasn’t going to
pull the Big Five rug out from under her.)
What was your
reaction, Tracy?
TRACY: I asked
Paul if he thought we could make more going the indie route.
PAUL: I said I
did, and sooner – the indie will have it published and selling before my
hardworking agent would be finished arguing contract commas with the
publisher’s rights department. Plus all
rights remain with us.
TRACY: I said,
Let’s do it. And so it’s coming out
under Robert Barr’s Shadowridge Press imprint.
Are you pissed at
your publisher?
PAUL: Not at all.
Submitting a book is the start of a negotiation. We were asking: What are the rights to our
novel worth to you? After the dust had
settled we realized the hardcover, softcover, and ebook rights were more
valuable to us than to them. So, no
deal. No rancor on my part (and I hope
not on theirs). Simply… no deal.
I’m not doing this out of spite. Life’s too short for that. They offered what they thought THE PROTEUS
CURE was worth in today’s thriller market.
I love my publisher; he’s a stand-up guy, always accessible, one of the
savviest in the business. And I’ve known
my editor forever. There’s no emotion
involved here. It’s purely a business
decision.
Will you indie pub
your next book?
PAUL: Frankly, I
don’t want to be a publisher.
Controlling all the rights is nice, but with that comes all sorts of
busywork that keeps me from writing. So
I’m willing to surrender those rights for an adequate advance and let the
industry pros do their thing while I start the next book. As I said, my publisher gets first look. After finishing FEAR CITY, the last of the
Early Years Trilogy, I’ll start on a thriller that’s been percolating for
years. I hope they’ll love it. I hope
they’ll offer an advance we can both live with.
How about you,
Tracy? Will you indie pub you next book?
TRACY: Though my
views were different several years ago, I’ve come around to seeing the
advantage of using an Indie publisher. I like having say over the cover art,
and the royalties are a lot higher. The quick turnaround from manuscript submission
to seeing the book in print is the driving force for me. I published
RESTITUTION, a dark psychological thriller, and THE COLLECTION AND OTHER DARKTALES, a group of horror stories, through Indie publisher Shadowridge Press and
was pleased with the result. My next thriller, HOPE HOUSE, about genetically
modified infants being sold through a black market adoption agency, will be
coming out in June.
How did this
collaboration come about?
PAUL: It started
with Tracy so I’ll let her begin, but I want it clear from the git-go that THE
PROTEUS CURE is a genuine collaboration.
Not one of those phony deals where the newbie does all the work and the
established writer simply attaches his name.
Tracy would do a few thousand words and pass it to me and I’d do a few
thousand and pass it back. This is a definite 50-50 project, and it's not some
lightweight toss-off either: it weighs in at 115,000 words with virtually no
fat.
TRACY: Couldn’t
have said it better. I approached Paul at a conference for his opinion about a
medical thriller I was starting. His first reaction was, “No, that couldn’t
work.” I argued it could. We went back and forth and finally he said something
like, “Okay, maybe, just maybe, but the story is all wrong.” He explained it
from a science and story standpoint. A couple of hours later we were
brainstorming this great new novel. Within a few days we’d decided to write it
together. I was thrilled for his mentorship and to know the book would be that
much better for his involvement.
PAUL: I realized
I was thinking more about PROTEUS than my own next book. When we came up with the final twist I was
psyched. I had to get involved.
What was the process?
TRACY: Before
writing a word of prose, we created a fully formed outline with subsections denoting
POV changes. For example, Chapter One might have sections one through eight
showing four characters’ actions. Paul would say, “Okay, you take the odd
numbers and I’ll take even.” This way we took turns writing the characters’
POVs and neither of us had a character that was all our own. Except for the
technical medical scenes which are clearly Paul’s, our styles are blended
together throughout the story.
PAUL: I've found
that an outline is vital to collaborating on a tightly plotted thriller, where certain
events have to take place in a certain order for the story to build suspense
and make sense. The sequence has to be
arranged in advance so that nobody's blowing the reveals. Both authors need to be able to anticipate
those reveals in their sections.
THE PROTEUS CURE:
Kindle http://tinyurl.com/bwb3mjd for $3.99.
Trade Paperback http://tinyurl.com/d4bgcwn for $16.99
Joe sez: I believe it was Bob Mayer who coined the term "hybrid publishing." This is a catchall description for those authors who are diversifying, doing some self-pub and some legacy or Amazon pub.
I've got five ebooks with Amazon imprints, and last month sold about 14,000 copies of those titles. For me it's a no-brainer. Diversify the portfolio, get alternate revenue streams, and reach new customers.
As much as I rant against legacy publishing, the fact remains that it treats some authors well.
Publishing is a business, not an ideology. Writers need to set goals according to their needs. Different projects can lend themselves to different ways of publishing.
If you are an author who has been given a choice of how to publish, think long and hard about it. How important is an advance? Royalty percentage? Control? Speed to publication? Validation? Getting into bookstores and libraries?
I've always loved hybrid cars, so I guess 'hybrid publishing' will be my next love.
ReplyDeleteYeah! Bring on the love! Spread the love people! Spread it! Yeah!
I just started reading F. Paul Wilson-- great reading.
ReplyDeleteI'm a big F. Paul Wilson fan and have recently become acquainted with Tracy through the New England Horror Writers. Good luck to you both on the new book. It sounds great.
ReplyDeleteThis book sounds awesome and I love the fact that you guys went a new publishing route for the right reasons.
ReplyDeleteI finished a thriller a couple of months ago with a similar concept. Not a stem-cell cure for cancer, but a revolutionary drug treatment for neurological disorders with a horrifying side effect for 1% of the patients who take it. It's called SYCAMORE BLUFF, and I'll be self-publishing it in December.
ReplyDeleteI haven't read Paul yet, but he's a fellow drummer so I know he's a good guy. :)
Haven't read Tracy yet either. Off to buy this one and give them both a try. Looking forward to it.
Thanks everyone. Paul and I worked very hard on this one to get it just right. There's nothing more horrific than how science can promote men to gods, and how easily and quickly experiments can go terribly wrong.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Tracy. Working with Paul must have been a thrill as well as a great chance to learn from a master storyteller.
ReplyDeleteBest of luck with the book!
Congrats, Tracy and Paul. This sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out.
ReplyDeleteI think we're starting to see acceptance of the changes taking place. The stigma or self-published books is slowly being erased. As more traditionally published authors take the indie and hybrid routes it lends credibility to self-published books.
Two years ago when people would ask who published my novels and I said they were self-published they said, "Oh." And that was typically the end of the converstaion. But today they don't react that way. They just want to know when the next novel will be available.
Sounds great, guys.
ReplyDeleteNice job. I'm certain it'll do well.
Who did the cover?
Robert Barr of Shadowridge Press designed the cover for us.
ReplyDeleteGreat premise...sounds like an awesome book!
ReplyDeleteIf this novel had been legacy published and traditionally priced for paper or ebook, I promise you I would have waited for a borrowed library copy.
Self-published for $3.99? A no brainer purchase that I can start reading now.
Great choice, and that's what it's really about these days - choice. Kudos to you both for turning down an unsatisfactory advance, proving that the Big 5 don't have authors by the (proverbial) balls anymore!
I've bounced a similar idea around about a doctor who comes up with a cure for AIDS but finds out to late that it also "cures" pregnancy. But it kept turning into Mars Needs Women so I never got anywhere with it.
ReplyDelete@Mr. Wilson. I don’t read much horror or science fiction, but your name clicked in my old brain, hauling me back to 1989. So I poked around in your Amazon bio, and there was the reason you tickled my brain. Your bio says: “DYDEETOWN WORLD was on the young adult recommended reading lists of the American Library Association and the New York Public Library, among others (God knows why).”
ReplyDeleteI can tell you why though I'm not, well, you know...God. I was on the YASD/YALSA BBYA committee in 1989/90. (I told you my brain was old.) Dydeetown made the list because it was well written, engaging, creative, a lot of fun and appealing to teens, even some who would otherwise read reluctantly.
So, you got my vote back then…and now (though a different kind of “vote.”) I just ordered The Proteus Cure. Not because Joe said we had to. Not even because of Dydeetown (though it didn’t hurt!)
I bought it because it sounds really good. Best of luck with it.
Gotta buy this one! I'm part of a man/woman writing team as well. It sounds like your writing process is similar to ours. Outlines are crucial for us.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite F. Paul Wilson book is a medical thriller called The Select.
ReplyDeleteI highly recommend it.
Got it, I have a raw, unschooled (no scientific degree) bent, but I love this stuff.
ReplyDeleteSounds great! I'll pick it up.
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks, Joe and guests, for conducting a rational, clear-eyed discussion about the pros and cons of various publishing routes. We need less bashing and more informative comparisons.
Currently I'm deep in the indie camp, because the speed, the percentages, and the feedback are unparalleled. I just published one book (my own) on Friday and a second (another author's) yesterday, and mine has already sold 144 copies. It's hard to compete with that, when a traditional publisher would still be deciding whether or not to buy the thing... and he wouldn't, since it's only 20,000 words long.
Ah, yes, F. Paul Wilson. Your book The Keep from… well, way long ago… was one that I’ve never forgotten. I’m looking forward to this new one.
ReplyDeleteDespite Mr. Wilson's impressive credits, I bought this because of Tracy, a fellow NEHW author. Gotta support our peeps. Although I'll now have to check out the Jack the Repairman books, which look intriguing. Thanks, Joe for bringing it all together-- and adding more to my TBR pile.
ReplyDeleteFor all the clowns that claim Joe only sells a lot of his books because of the traffic to this blog; I give you the current ranking of The Proteus Cure a few days after this recommendation:
ReplyDelete3,947 Paid in Kindle Store
The Proteus Cure is now ranked #5,319 Paid in Kindle Store.
ReplyDeleteAre you trying to say that it is doing well and so Joe Konrath's promotion of it helped?
Or are you trying to say that it is doing poorly and so Joe Konrath's promotion of it didn't help?
The book starts out with weather, I've read numerous times that you should never start a book with weather.
The first 6 paragraphs don't have a hook either. And the 7th paragraph has a weak hook.
However, I do like the writing style because it sounds natural, not stilted and contrived like some other authors.
The book seems to be sinking fast in the Amazon rank. I'd say Joe Konrath's promotion gave it a big boost when it first came out, but now the boost is winding down.
Joe Konrath says that he thinks blogs don't sell books, but then he also used his blog to promote his recent big 99 cent sale and encouraged all his readers to retweet or reblog the sale.
I would say that the 99 cent sale wouldn't have been as successful as it was without his blog's help as well as the reblogging of his readers.
But I'm just a clown so what do I know?
Proteus was ranked #19,000 before I blogged. It hit #1600 the day I blogged. But that was the ebook launch, so I'm sure it coincided with other promotion by Paul and Tracy.
ReplyDeleteMy blog, and social media connections, can help give an ebook sales. But these sales are brief and not sustainable. In order to catch on and continue to sell, a book needs a big external push (sale, freebie, bookbub, ebookbooster) or it needs to capture readers' attention while on the bestseller lists.
Luck plays a huge part. But ebooks are forever. I'm sure Proteus will do well. It has plenty of time to sell a lot of copies.
Thanks for helping me go broke buying eBooks, Joe! Only one suggestion: in the future, could you post a link to Amazon.com (or wherever) when one clicks on the cover? I instinctively click on the cover art when reading book descriptions.
ReplyDeleteI favor contemporary romance, but other genres appeal to me. Especially books like this one. Now I have to find out what the side-effects are to the Proteus Cure. Best of luck Paul and Tracy!
So Tracy's boyfriend is publishing this. Very cool.
ReplyDeleteThanks to Draculas, I discovered Mr. Wilson and have been in love ever since! I even sat through The Keep (the horribly done movie for the awesome book of the same name - I don't get scared anymore when I read horror, but this one really creeped me out in the beginning! Besides, anyone who can write Nazis + Vampires without making it cheesy gets 5 stars in my book!) I am one-clicking this!
ReplyDeletealways loved hybrid cars, This sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out.buying rs gold
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