tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post4206570458401891304..comments2024-03-28T02:00:11.260-05:00Comments on A Newbie's Guide to Publishing: More On Kindle WorldsJA Konrathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-41702616503682855892015-05-23T12:19:23.236-05:002015-05-23T12:19:23.236-05:00If konrath was head of coca cola he would be letti...If konrath was head of coca cola he would be letting hundreds of drinks manufacturers use the coca cola branding to make a thousands of different versions of coke..... He must know so much more than the leaders of every brand in the world.<br /><br />Just think Ford badges on a multitude of cars of varying quality and apple being applied to hundreds of different phones and laptops.<br /><br />Konrath - genius or fool.?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-47259309448319090742015-05-14T05:56:50.444-05:002015-05-14T05:56:50.444-05:00I wish I'd been able to write my comment yeste...I wish I'd been able to write my comment yesterday, before the "diminish" theme got in, but I'm finishing working a full time temp job and have to do as able. <br /><br />Nevertheless, I absolutely felt no diminishment writing either of my two shorts for KW so far, one for Joe's Jack Daniels world, and the other for his and Ann's Chandler world.<br /><br />I absolutely have gained insight into characters and action sequencing, by merging (and keeping) my own characters with those of Ann and Joe.<br /><br />My most surprising realization was, putting my own internal characters into words with characters I've read and enjoyed, required me to internalize what I had only before read and felt, but not re-expressed in my own style and writing.<br /><br />Writing "An Unexpected-Conventional Morning" and "An Unexpected Afternoon" has given me a confidence and path to expression that, though I'm sure I would have arrived at this eventually, was much sooner, much easier, and tons of fun.<br /><br />So for me, Joe and Ann's version of Kindle Worlds has been a huge success creatively.<br /><br />Much much thanks to both writers.adanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00710750989853277203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-29690230614283059512015-05-13T13:31:31.325-05:002015-05-13T13:31:31.325-05:00I think it would be interesting to take my charact...<i> I think it would be interesting to take my characters in an entirely different, offbeat, unexpected direction.</i><br /><br />"Different and offbeat" is definitely my jam! :)<br /><br />Have to say...this is very tempting. I introduced the Erindor universe by way of a portal fantasy, so I already have a plausible way of getting characters back and forth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805424061244808455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-52688781002239358432015-05-13T13:15:26.593-05:002015-05-13T13:15:26.593-05:00Hey, maybe one day my necromancer from Erindor can...<i>Hey, maybe one day my necromancer from Erindor can solve some mysteries with your characters! (Is that possible?)</i><br /><br />Of course it's possible, Nat. That's the idea.<br /><br />Team up any of my characters with your necromancer, upload to Kindle World, keep half the royalties.<br /><br />I've gotten some good stories that fit within the themes and genres I've created. I think it would be interesting to take my characters in an entirely different, offbeat, unexpected direction. <br /><br />Harry McGlade would have a lot of fun in Erindor.JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-72894885163177058012015-05-13T12:08:41.588-05:002015-05-13T12:08:41.588-05:00Joe, I'm obviously not the only one who consid...Joe, I'm obviously not the only one who considers you a pioneer. I applaud your willingness to step out in front and lead. (You may not have known that's what you're doing...but that's what you're doing. :) )<br /><br />I've had mixed feelings about this, and I eagerly await the results of your experiment. And I certainly wish you the best with it!<br /><br />Hey, maybe one day my necromancer from Erindor can solve some mysteries with your characters! (Is that possible?)<br /><br />Cheers!<br />NatAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805424061244808455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-7302326261816902632015-05-13T07:51:02.146-05:002015-05-13T07:51:02.146-05:00Konrath, Higby, Tresslar...
Don't get me wron...Konrath, Higby, Tresslar...<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I hope you're all correct.<br /><br />Good luck.<br /><br />Let us know what effect it does have on sales etc.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />RichardAnonymousWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346079936078675252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-20940353538810829342015-05-13T07:05:35.135-05:002015-05-13T07:05:35.135-05:00I really enjoyed the chance to diminish, dilute, d...I really enjoyed the chance to diminish, dilute, defile and destroy Joe and Ann's characters. <br />And, as someone who's written a dozen or so books for the Mack Bolan series, I also believe working with licensed characters is a great way for a writer to develop his or her chops while getting paid. Is it the only way? No. But it is one path.Tim Tresslarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-33273392632082858092015-05-12T23:09:39.931-05:002015-05-12T23:09:39.931-05:00Still curious about the covers....
My cover artis...<i>Still curious about the covers....</i><br /><br />My cover artist, Carl Graves at Extended Imagery (his website is in my sidebar, www.extendedimagery.com) did most of the covers for the Chandler and Jack Daniels Kindle Worlds. The goal was to have a distinct stylefor each KW that branded them, so they could be recognized by readers.JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-42113721263587181652015-05-12T21:40:59.859-05:002015-05-12T21:40:59.859-05:00Truth is for we writers, that means those of us wh...Truth is for we writers, that means those of us who write every damned day, we can write a 19,000+ novella in about 3 weeks, or less for Joe and Kindle Worlds, have one helluva great time, self pollinate. Then we continue on with our own works spending maybe 6 weeks writing a 80,000+ novel. I personally have 30 books of my own via amazon. Joe has offered a killer way to cross populate readers. And lets be honest Joe's characters are one heck of a fun ride. Cheers!BRYAN HIGBYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01126595775432851053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-31187040618546467422015-05-12T21:30:27.728-05:002015-05-12T21:30:27.728-05:00Congrats everyone! I wish the best for all of you....Congrats everyone! I wish the best for all of you. I know that I'm personally going through each novel/story. Cheers!BRYAN HIGBYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01126595775432851053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-48166061147830411672015-05-12T20:33:00.991-05:002015-05-12T20:33:00.991-05:00Still curious about the covers....Still curious about the covers....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-20813016184887615072015-05-12T18:03:54.689-05:002015-05-12T18:03:54.689-05:00You only spout opinions and provide no evidence fo...<i>You only spout opinions and provide no evidence for any of your spouting</i><br /><br />Here's something that'll blow your mind: saying that you are spouting unsupported opinion isn't opinion, it's fact. And you're the one making it a fact by refusing to support your opinion.<br /><br />You saying that my facts are an opinion is your opinion, and an incorrect one. But my calling your comments "opinions" is factual.<br /><br />I could do this all day, but I probably need to go dilute my brand some more. Because so few people know who I am, so...<br /><br />Uh...<br /><br />Hmmm.<br /><br />If so few people know who I am, compared to Alexander (er, Ian) Fleming, then what am I diluting exactly?<br /><br />"Hey! Don't pour water into that water! You'll dilute it!"JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-85803752166112217782015-05-12T17:58:14.385-05:002015-05-12T17:58:14.385-05:00And that is not a disparagement of Konrath's w...<i>And that is not a disparagement of Konrath's writing and sales success. It's a fact.</i><br /><br />Ahh. You used the word "fact".<br /><br />Can you cite your source? Provide the link? Do you have the video of you asking 100 people on the street if they know James Bond? Or me?<br /><br />Hmmm. <br /><br />See, what you did, Richard, is start with a premise that you believed to be true (that I'm diluting my brand) that you haven't defended and apparently haven't fully thought out.<br /><br />Your belief that something is true does not make it so. And I don't care what your opinion is. While I'm sure you're a fascinating person and no doubt a lot of fun at parties, when you make statements about me diminishing my brand you need to provide some sort of evidence to back up those statements.<br /><br />Again, I urge you to go and read my posts about copyright.<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2015/03/on-copyright-again.html>http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2015/03/on-copyright-again.html</a><br /><br />See, I <i>have</i> thought this through, long and hard. And I'm conducting an experiment to see if my hunches are correct. I'm not stating opinions as facts. I'm trying to figure things out. <br /><br />Also, I wish you would try to defend some of your points, because that's how I learn. By people making, and defending, their statements ably enough to make me rethink my own positions.<br /><br />This doesn't anger me in the least. I wish every single person who posted here disagreed with me. JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-67801629527838303112015-05-12T17:51:16.077-05:002015-05-12T17:51:16.077-05:00Konrath
You only spout opinions and provide no ev...Konrath<br /><br />You only spout opinions and provide no evidence for any of your spouting<br /><br />AnonymousWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346079936078675252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-91635680688809192582015-05-12T17:50:30.702-05:002015-05-12T17:50:30.702-05:00despite Konrath's success you would be lucky i...<i>despite Konrath's success you would be lucky if 2 people stopped in the street would know one of his characters.</i><br /><br />Two out of a hundred?<br /><br />I'd be shocked if two out of 20,000 people stopped on the street had ever heard of me. Why would they have? How many of those 20,000 read thriller fiction on a regular basis?<br /><br />Now a more pointed, and interesting, question is how many thriller readers who shop at Amazon recognize my name?<br /><br />Maybe that would be 2 out of a 100. Maybe 2 out of 1000. I dunno. I'd need to know how many people by thrillers on Amazon and divide it by how many of my ebooks have sold on Amazon.<br /><br />But I've sold over two million books. So someone is reading me, or at least buying me. <br /><br />JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-69624005847185805232015-05-12T17:45:55.941-05:002015-05-12T17:45:55.941-05:00everything is opinion
Except for those pesky fact...<i>everything is opinion</i><br /><br />Except for those pesky facts and truths.<br /><br />Is it your opinion that circles are round?<br /><br />Debate isn't centered around opinion. It's centered around making points and proving them.<br /><br />Opinions don't matter. Not one teeny tiny bit.<br /><br />As for countering your points, I've done so several times.JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-49850968767153496232015-05-12T17:43:19.128-05:002015-05-12T17:43:19.128-05:00What would have happened if 50 other James Bond bo...<i>What would have happened if 50 other James Bond books were written at the time Fleming was writing them.</i><br /><br />Well all I need to do is step into my machine to travel to an alternate universe and...<br /><br />Oh, wait. I can't do that.<br /><br />So no one could ever possibly know what would happen if there were that many James Bond writers. Maybe Bond would have gone for several hundred books, like the Destroyer series or Mack Bolan, which have been written by many authors. But we don't know, because you're using a fallacious argument. (argumentum ad ingorantium, onus probandi, circulus in demonstrando, et al.)<br /><br />JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-66316474011038354482015-05-12T17:31:23.370-05:002015-05-12T17:31:23.370-05:00Konrath...
everything is opinion
i would have be...Konrath...<br /><br />everything is opinion<br /><br />i would have been interested to read your considered response to some of my points<br /><br />no problem<br /><br />AnonymousWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346079936078675252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-74087912801027410252015-05-12T17:29:59.883-05:002015-05-12T17:29:59.883-05:00To use my example you would have advised Ian Flemi...<i>To use my example you would have advised Ian Fleming to push James Bond aside and focus on Sherlock Holmes fan fiction.</i><br /><br />Am I the only one here who wished Ian Fleming wrote a Sherlock Holmes story? That would have been cool. Or Holmes teaming up with Bond's grandfather to solve a case? <br /><br />I suggest going back and reading the posts I've dedicated to Kindle Worlds, and the ones prior to that where I discuss allowing other writers into my universe, and the problems with current IP and copyright law.<br /><br />No one is telling anyone to give up their characters. But if my characters and name can help a lesser-known writer introduce their character to some of my readers, I think that's good for everyone. And if I can collaborate with writers and mix up our IPs, and be able to do so with Amazon sorting out the royalties rather than me, my accountant, or my agent having to do it, that's good, too.JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-69432917922038331302015-05-12T17:24:47.795-05:002015-05-12T17:24:47.795-05:00I await Konrath's wrath, anger and contempt
I...<i>I await Konrath's wrath, anger and contempt</i><br /><br />I await for you to show me a single instance--a link, a quote, a video--where I am showing anger, wrath, or contempt.<br /><br />In this case, I'm showing sarcasm. It may soon be followed by ridicule, because you've shown yourself unable to prove a point.<br />JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-16690464400872700312015-05-12T17:22:23.079-05:002015-05-12T17:22:23.079-05:00I am worried for Konrath.
I'm touched by your...<i>I am worried for Konrath.</i><br /><br />I'm touched by your concern.<br /><br /><i>He dilutes and diminishes his brand.</i><br /><br />When you state something as a fact, you should, you know, back it up with data and examples. Or else it is unsupported opinion. Which is fine--the world is full of people who are constantly offering their unsupported opinions.<br /><br />These people don't impress me. At all.<br /><br />Believing in something, without proof, is fine if it makes you happy.<br /><br />Telling others that what you believe in is the truth, well, that's obnoxious. And stupid.<br /><br /><i>They would have destroyed their careers.</i><br /><br />You began that sentence "can you imagine." <br /><br />Can you imagine a world where dogs walked people instead of the other way around? That would be crazy!<br /><br />Now show me some evidence of a a writer--ANY WRITER--who destroyed their career in this way you imagine.<br /><br /><i>I know konrath gets angry when anyone else dares have an alternative opinion</i><br /><br />You've never seen me angry. You've never read anything by me written in anger.<br /><br />But you have seen me be very amused by pinheads.<br /><br />I happen to be smiling right now.<br /><br /><i>1. It dilutes and confuses the key writers brand, characters and concepts.</i><br /><br />Proof? Nope, that's more unsupported opinion.<br /><br /><i>2. Instead of new writers working on their own characters and worlds and concepts they waste time writing fan fiction based on others works...</i><br /><br />You know that I only stepped into Kindle Worlds when Amazon allowed writers to keep the rights to their characters, right?JA Konrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778324558755151986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-63258123508876646642015-05-12T16:01:18.548-05:002015-05-12T16:01:18.548-05:00By established i mean if you stopped 100 people in...By established i mean if you stopped 100 people in the street probably 98 have heard of James Bond...despite Konrath's success you would be lucky if 2 people stopped in the street would know one of his characters.<br /><br />And that is not a disparagement of Konrath's writing and sales success. It's a fact. AnonymousWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346079936078675252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-21480311177154087812015-05-12T15:53:30.704-05:002015-05-12T15:53:30.704-05:00AnonymousWriter - Maybe I should ask how you defin...AnonymousWriter - Maybe I should ask how you define "established?" The first Jack Daniels book was published over a decade ago and they continue to sell pretty well as far as I know. J. A. Konrath is one of the most well-know and most-often mentioned writers in the ebook business. How much more "established" does he have to be?Gordon Hopkinshttp://www.gordonhopkins.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-26391603093417013652015-05-12T15:21:21.595-05:002015-05-12T15:21:21.595-05:00Gordon Hopkins..the follow ups to Ian Fleming'...Gordon Hopkins..the follow ups to Ian Fleming's have been written well after the Bond concept/brand has been established.<br /><br />What would have happened if 50 other James Bond books were written at the time Fleming was writing them.AnonymousWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346079936078675252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11291165.post-86635087990447331002015-05-12T15:11:51.037-05:002015-05-12T15:11:51.037-05:00AnonymousWriter - I think you already answered to ...AnonymousWriter - I think you already answered to your own criticisms by bringing up James Bond.<br /><br />Aren't you worried about Ian Fleming diluting and diminishing his brand? After all, there are James Bond novels written by Jeffery Deaver, William Boyd, John Gardner, Raymond Benson and Kingsley Amis. I'd be more concerned about his brand if people are going to start calling him Alexander Fleming.<br /><br />Of course, at least the James Bond books are written by well-known, professional writers. Joe Konrath may in trouble if his Kindle Worlds books are being written by talentless hacks no one has ever heard of like this F. Paul Wilson guy.<br /><br />Also, I don't understand this statement: "It dilutes and confuses the key writers (in this case Konrath's) brand, characters and concepts." The Kindle worlds books are pretty clearly labeled as such. There doesn't seem to be any reason for confusion. The nice thing about people who buy books is that most of them know how to read.Gordon Hopkinshttp://www.gordonhopkins.net/noreply@blogger.com