Saturday, August 01, 2015

Barry and Joe and More Authors Guild Nonsense


TL;DR - The Authors Guild Still Sucks.

Joe sez: Okay, so the Authors Guild keeps acting like a bunch of assclowns, and now the ABA has embarrassed itself alongside them. There’s a good breakdown of it over at The Digital Reader via Nate Hoffelder, and some smart comments over at Passive Voice. But there’s more to say about this matter, so Barry Eisler is going to unleash some much-needed logic and reason, and then I’m going to fisk.
Barry sez: Publisher Lobbyist “Unprecedented Joint Action!”
Life is too short to continually respond to self-serving publishing establishment bloviation, so I was going to ignore this American Booksellers Association “interview” of Mary Rasenberger, the Executive Director of the Authors Guild. It’s such a regurgitation of long-since debunked legacy publisher talking points that the most useful thing you could do with it is play Bullshit Bingo: Amazon a Monopoly…Devaluing Books…Free Flow of Ideas…Engine of Democracy…Bingo! Besides, Nate Hoffelder had already performed the thankless task of acting as this week’s bucket brigade and responding to this latest cycle of the same old publishing establishment bullshit, and Joe intended to do the same. So I was all set to roll my eyes and move on...
But then I realized: the piece is such a purified expression of publishing propaganda that even apart from the tired, repeatedly debunked substance (a charitable word, under the circumstances), there were a few propaganda aspects worth noting.
First, though the answers Rasenberger provides are entirely predictable (and indeed, have been debunked so many times they’re not worth addressing with anything more than a link or two), the questions themselves are revealing. Here’s a sample:
·How has Amazon’s abuse of its dominance in the book industry directly affected authors?
·How have Amazon’s punitive actions against publishers, such as Hachette during their 2014 contract dispute, impacted authors?
·According to some news reports, self-published authors who once thought of Amazon as their ally are now feeling victimized. Why is that?
·As Amazon continues to sell huge numbers of titles below cost and uses them as loss leaders to entice sales on other segments of its website, what will be the long-term effect on a thriving and robust literary marketplace?
Holy “When did you stop beating your wife,” Batman!
If you were a legacy publisher…if you were an Amazon competitor…if you were any one of the unprecedentedly joint actors…indeed, if you were a clone of Mary Rasenberger, Executive Director of the Authors Guild, interviewing yourself!—would you phrase even one of these embarrassingly loaded questions differently?
Assuming you had an exceptionally low shame threshold, you wouldn’t. The questions would all be the same.
Which brings us to the second revealing aspect of this "propaganda masquerading as an interview" drill. You see, in the standard “blow-job masquerading as interview” gambit, it’s generally enough to hope the reader will just assume the interviewer and interviewee are working at arms-length. Making the point explicitly isn’t really the done thing. Here, however, perhaps not trusting readers to be sufficiently gulled, the ABA and AG are at pains to describe the “unprecedented joint action” of the AG, Authors United, the ABA, and the Association of Authors’ Representatives in going after Amazon for monopolizing the marketplace of ideas, devaluing books, and generally crushing dissent, democracy, and all that is good. The impression they’re trying to create is, “Wow, if so many separate organizations hate Amazon, Amazon must be doing something bad.”
But what’s critical to understand is that the most fundamental purpose of the Authors Guild, Authors United, the American Booksellers Association, and the Association of Authors is to preserve the publishing industry in its current incarnation. Whatever marginal differences they might have (I’ve never actually seen any, but am happy to acknowledge the theoretical possibility) are eclipsed by this commonality of purpose. Under the circumstances, the fact that these four legacy publisher lobbyists agree on something is entirely unremarkable (indeed, what would be remarkable would be some evidence of division). But if people recognize the exercise as a version of “No really, I read it somewhere…okay, I wrote it down first,” the propaganda fizzles. And that’s why these propagandists have to nudge readers with the bullshit about the “unprecedented joint action.” Otherwise, when Authors Guild Executive Director Mary Rasenberger cites Authors United pitchman Doug Preston as though Preston were a separate, credible source, people might roll their eyes instead of nodding at the seriousness of it all. They might even giggle at the realization that all those “When did Amazon stop beating its wife?” questions were functionally being put by Rasenberger to herself.
So no, this wasn’t remotely a cross-examination, or even a cross pollination (indeed, publisher lobbyists are expert at fleeing anything that offers even the slightest whiff of actual debate—which does make their alleged devotion to the Free Flow of Ideas and Information as the Engine of Democracy worthy of a smile, at least, if nothing else). It was just a stump speech lovingly hosted by someone else’s blog. The sole reason for the exercise was to create the misleading appearance of multiple, arms-length actors when functionally there is only one.
In fairness to the aforementioned Unprecedentedly Joint Actors, there is a rich heritage behind this form of propaganda. For example, in the run-up to America’s second Iraq war, Dick Cheney would have someone from his office phone up a couple of pet New York Times reporters, who would then dutifully report that anonymous administration officials believed Saddam Hussein had acquired aluminum tubes as part of his nuclear weapons efforts…and then Cheney would go on all the Sunday morning talk shows and get to say, “Don’t take my word for the aluminum tube stuff—even the New York Times is reporting it!”
So leave aside the fact that the “joint action” in question is anything but unprecedented—that it is in fact publishing establishment SOP. Anyone familiar with the record of these organizations will instantly realize that the “unprecedented joint action” in question is a lot like the “joint action” of all four fingers—plus the thumb!—of someone throwing back a shot of tequila. Like that of a little boy pleasuring himself—with both hands!—and trying to convince anyone who will listen that the Unprecedented Left and Right Action is proof that “Everybody loves me!”
The third aspect of this publisher lobbyist propaganda worth mentioning is the standard “we’re just disinterested, non-partisan, democracy-loving onlookers” dodge. Authors United, one of the partner organizations cited by both the ABA and the AG in the piece (they all work so hand-in-glove and cite each other so promiscuously they can be hard to distinguish) is particularly shameless in this regard, repeatedly proclaiming “We’re not taking sides” even while buying $100,000 anti-Amazon ads, sending complaints to the Amazon board of directors, and lobbying the Justice Department to break up Amazon. I’d ask Author United’s Doug Preston what more he would do against Amazon if he were taking sides, but these organizations never engage their critics (a tactic that could fairly be cited as its own form of propaganda).
Here, the ABA is careful to issue the standard “We’re not anti-Amazon!” disclaimer—a disclaimer that serves as its own punch line given the surreally tendentious questions that follow it, and given that the very title of the piece is “Why Amazon Deserves Antitrust Scrutiny.” It’s like the old French joke about Germany—“We love Germany so much we think there should be two of them.” The jointly-acting, non-side-taking, non-anti-Amazon ABA, AG, AU, and AAR actually love Amazon—so much they want the company broken into multiple bite-sized chunks!
You know what, though? I doubt even the Unprecedented Joint Actors believe their own storyline. Because a resort to this type of crass propaganda isn’t a sign of confidence or strength. It’s a recognition that people aren’t buying your bullshit. That doesn’t mean the Unprecedented Joint Actors won’t prevail—after all, Cheney did, so we know that sometimes the propagandists win. But this is why it’s so important that their tactics, as well as their aims, be constantly exposed.
Joe sez: So, with Barry’s points in mind, a-fisking I shall go. The asinine interview in crazy bold italics, my reply in common sense regular font.
Two weeks ago, the book industry saw an unprecedented joint action: U.S. booksellers, authors, and literary agents called on the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate the business practices of Amazon.com. On July 13, the group Authors United, led by author Douglas Preston, delivered a letter to the U.S. Department of Justice calling for an investigation of Amazon’s “abuse of its dominance in the world of books.” The Authors United action was supported by the American Booksellers Association, which sent its own letter to the DOJ, and by both the Authors Guild and the Association of Authors’ Representatives.
Here, Mary Rasenberger, executive director of the Authors Guild, talks about the organization’s support for the Authors United letter and why Amazon’s unprecedented dominance of the book retail market is harmful to authors, booksellers, and the reading public.
Barry just talked about how this is hardly “unprecedented.” But why is the American Booksellers Association involved with this issue? Specifically, how are they being harmed other than Amazon simply competing better than they are? Let’s read on…
BTW: Why did the Authors Guild support last week’s Authors United appeal to the Department of Justice and what has been your role in the Authors United letter?
Mary Rasenberger: We at the Authors Guild have been working closely with Doug Preston for the greater part of the past year on both the longer policy memo and the shorter letter that he is asking authors and others to sign.
Wow. I have so many sarcastic responses in my head competing to be first. It took over six months for two committees of authors to write these terrible 23 pages?

Sad.

With all those eyes on it, the policy memo was still so poorly done a four-year-old child could poke holes in it.

Pathetic.

And during all this time, the Authors Guild could have been devoting its efforts to doing something that actually helps authors instead of publishers.

Awful.
We could argue about the merits of getting into bed with the enemy that controls you, and trying to change things through appeasement rather than conflict, but then don't call yourself a guild for authors. On the AG website is a lengthy pronouncement on how they protect free speech and defend the"digital arena" from censorship, when they just wrote to Congress in an effort to resurrect a ridiculous offshoot of SOPA.
Might I suggest they call themselves the Vichy Guild?
Barry also mentioned that on their website the AG crows "Half of Net Proceeds is the Fair Royalty Rate for E-Books," while two lines down it calls on the government to investigate Amazon… for paying exactly that fair royalty!

Fail.
We sent a separate letter to the Department of Justice on this topic last summer and met with them as well. We wholeheartedly believe that Amazon deserves antitrust scrutiny.
Follow this through to the conclusion. The DOJ goes after Amazon. What happens next? It levies fines? Who will ultimately pay those fines? You think perhaps those costs will be passed along? To whom? Customers? No. Amazon wants to keep prices low. So how would it recoup that money, since Amazon is notorious for not making a profit? Maybe, perhaps, Amazon will pay that fine by squeezing suppliers? You know, like publishers and writers? It that what all of these organizations want?
Or let’s say the Assistant Attorney General pushes to break up Amazon. What will happen to Amazon as a result? Well, what happened when Standard Oil was broken up? Hint: many of those companies thrived, but it didn't foster new competition in the market. It simply divvied up the pie. But let's pretend that breaking up Amazon fosters innovation and competition (even though Amazon seems to be the only player actually innovating and competing). What happens next? More competition means… lower prices. Doesn't the Big 5 want higher prices? Isn't that the whole point? What the hell are they thinking trying to use the government against Amazon? How does this scenario end well for the Big 5?

I can think of just one way: Amazon is afraid so it gives the Big 5 all the terms they're asking for to get them to stop poking Uncle Sam.

Do they really think Amazon is afraid? Or that Amazon doesn't have a stable of lawyers who are experts in anti-trust?

If the government fines Amazon, or breaks it up, publishers will be disintermediated even faster than their present course is dictating.

Didn't anyone think this through? The problem isn't Amazon. The problem is that technology--which is inevitable--is changing the way consumers buy and read books. If not Amazon, another company or companies will follow the same path. The reign of paper dominance has ended. They way to thrive is to innovate, not to whine to Uncle Sam.

While Amazon has done a lot that has benefitted the book industry — it created an e-commerce platform that made buying books online very easy and fast; created the first really good e-reader, which dramatically increased access to e-books; and made it very easy for authors to self-publish — in recent years it has ruthlessly used, indeed abused, its unprecedented dominance of the book retail market in ways that harm the book industry as a whole, including authors and the reading public.

And my wife harms me by bathing me with love and constantly supporting me. Maybe I should ask the DOJ to intervene in my marriage.
The fact is Amazon now virtually controls an important marketplace of information. That is not good for bookstores or for authors, and it is not good for democracy. We now have a single, corporate entity that exerts a dangerous amount of control over the channels of free expression that sustain our democracy. A corporation has never before in American history been allowed to monopolize an information or communications channel. The courts and the government never let that happen before, precisely because democracy relies on the free flow of expression and that requires a broad, diverse array of information sources. When the Associated Press, Turner Broadcasting, or Barnes & Noble threatened to dominate a single marketplace of information, the courts or a government agency intervened. It’s important to see the big picture here, because this situation can easily be trivialized. We’re not just talking about the price of an e-book. We’re talking about interference with the marketplace of information and ideas, which is the engine of any democracy.
I’ve already blogged at length about how the “marketplace of information” bullshit is bullshit. But let’s examine the end of that ridiculous statement, “the engine of any democracy.” On the AG website is a lengthy pronouncement on how they protect free speech and a defend the "digital arena" from censorship, when they just wrote to Congress in an effort to resurrect a ridiculous offshoot of SOPA.
So, do they only want to protect the democracy that they agree with? Isn’t that called something other than democracy? They don’t want Amazon to control the marketplace of information, and at the same time they wrote to Congress demanding that Congress control the marketplace of information.
WTF?
And why is the ABA involved with this? Wouldn’t they want Amazon to stifle the “marketplace of information” so seekers of true information will instead patronize indie bookstores?
Think about it. Your main competition is seriously messing up. Instead of letting them hang themselves with their own rope, you want to get the government involved? Instead of one large competitor, does the ABA want five more smaller competitors? What if the DOJ breaks Amazon up, and one of the new companies formed by the breakup decides to set up a new brick-and-mortar bookstore chain? If that happens, will the ABA be pleased? Or will ABA members just sue the chain like they sued Barnes & Noble?
How about, instead of suing or whining to the government, you just try to compete?
I like bookstores, even if they refuse to stock my Amazon published work. I don’t want them to disappear. But nobody owes anyone a living. If they need government interference to compete, because customers freely choose to shop for books elsewhere, I don’t see how that can be called a good thing.
So the Authors Guild has taken a keen interest in Amazon. We’ve been following Amazon’s behavior in the book markets for a number of years — as have most other publishing industry observers. But I want to be clear on one thing, even after everything I just said: We’re not anti-Amazon. We don’t oppose everything the company does. We give praise where it’s due. We’ve simply opposed Amazon’s more ruthless tactics and the unhealthiness of its monopoly.
What horseshit.
We’re not anti-Amazon! Except when we are!
We’re against monopolies! Except, you know, the Big 5 cartel that controls paper distribution!
Amazon deserves praise for opening up the long tail to readers in the most remote parts of the country, for instance. But did it have to do that at the expense of so many independent bookstores?
No, it didn’t. Some indie bookstores could have opened up to service customers in remote parts of the country. But they didn’t. Amazon did. And Amazon didn’t do it to smite indie bookstores. It did it to reach customers. The fact that indie bookstores don’t offer the wide range of products Amazon offers isn’t Amazon’s fault. No one, Amazon included, is preventing bookstores from competing
And we are grateful to Amazon for making it so easy for authors to publish on their own, but it should pay authors decent royalties and allow them to set their own prices without punishment; Amazon should be transparent about what goes into determining its royalty pool.
I agree. Amazon should pay authors decent royalties. Which is why I’m glad its royalties are four times more decent than the ones paid by the Big Five. Someone really ought to let the Authors Guild know this--it’s important.

And yeah, I agree it would be nice if Amazon would eliminate its 35% (still twice the legacy rate) band for books priced under $2.99 and over $9.99. But calling that band--which again, at a minimum still pays out twice the going legacy rate--a “punishment” is worse than moronic. It’s blatant fear-mongering through propagandistic word choices. If Amazon is “punishing” authors for paying 35% and 70%, what is the Big Five doing to authors when it pays 12.5% or 17.5%?

The call for more Amazon transparency is also interesting, given the legendary openness practiced by the Big Five. But let’s examine this one in detail anyway.

Amazon’s KU payout rate fluctuates according to some equation only Amazon knows. Like a utility bill. Every month someone comes to the door asking me to “lock in” my gas or electric rate, protecting it in case it goes up. But then I’m locked into the higher rate if prices drop.
Amazon could pay a set, agreed-upon rate per page that doesn’t fluctuate. What then? What if subscriptions become the #1 way to read, and our sales our cannibalized, and we’re locked into that rate?
Well, you could say that if that happens, Amazon could always raise the rate. Or pay bonuses.
But that’s no different than what Amazon is currently doing. That still means fluctuating payments.
If Amazon allowed authors to opt in or out of KU each month, forecasting what the per page rate will be for that month, that would give authors more control. But how much more? If the rate fluctuates, we still have no financial stability. And we still won’t know how much we’ll earn at the end of the month, because we can’t predict how many page reads will get.
I don’t see an easy answer here. But if you’re worried about ebook retailers screwing you, your only true alternative is controlling your own sales via your own website.
In the meantime, KU is optional. We can opt out after three months. And if authors don’t like the way Amazon pays, they’ll leave, and Amazon will need to entice them back with better payments. This seems like a system that polices itself.
Last summer, in the midst of Amazon’s dispute with Hachette, when Amazon began deliberately suppressing Hachette authors’ sales in order to drive a wedge between the publisher and its authors, we worked behind the scenes, writing a series of white papers that led to meetings with the DOJ and a number of state attorneys general.
Well slap me with a mackerel until I spit scales, here comes the “Amazon Attacks Authors!” meme again.
Amazon has never suppressed sales. I swear I'm gonna get a tattoo gun and start inking that on every moron who says they did.

Hachette refused to make a deal with the #1 book retailer in the world, and Amazon had no legal or moral obligation to keep selling Hachette books. Hachette authors should have sued Hachette for bad faith breach of contract, because Hachette used them as human shields to get terms from Amazon that benefitted Hachette and not its authors.

Meanwhile, Doug, with his Authors United grassroots group of authors, brought great and well-deserved attention to the Hachette authors’ cause. We’ve been supportive of Authors United from the start. Doug is an Authors Guild council member — we’ve worked hand in hand with him.
Ah, nothing like a bunch of multimillionaires taking the grassroots approach by wasting $100,000 on a full page NYT ad. Power to the people, man! I mean, isn’t an ad a lot better for authors than maybe, I dunno, sharing that $100,000 with authors who were harmed because Hachette dragged its feet for eight months to sign a new deal with Amazon?
BTW: How has Amazon’s abuse of its dominance in the book industry directly affected authors?
Worst. Interview. Ever.

Unless… maybe this isn't an actual interview? Maybe it's propaganda?

MR: Amazon has artificially driven down the price of books and, because of its market dominance, it has been able to force publishers of all sizes, as well as independently published authors, to accept its terms on a “take it or leave it” basis.
Amazon has indeed driven down the price of books, but how is that artificial? That’s called "reality". When you have a lot of buying power, you can negotiate for better deals, and pass along the savings to consumers. You can even afford to make some items loss leaders.
As far as harming independently published authors, is Mary Rasenberger high? Serious question. I say some really stupid shit when I get high, and I can forgive her this giant hunk of idiocy if she was bogarting a purple kush spliff when she said it.
If not, I’ll remind Mary that indie authors get 70% for self-pubbed sales on Amazon, and 17.5% through Big 5 publishers. I’ll also remind Mary that both Amazon, and KDP Select, are optional for authors, not mandatory, whereas if an author signed with a publisher they have ZERO say on who sells it, or for how much.
Plus, it drive me nuts when Authors Guild morons say things about Amazon that could also be directly applied to Big Publishing. Hey! Mary! You think Amazon has take it or leave it terms? Have you ever seen a contract from the Big 5? Do you think it’s maybe significant that the authors who sign the Amazon “take-it-or-leave-it” contract can walk away from it pretty much any time? Think that’s maybe worth mentioning? While by comparison a legacy contract functionally lasts forever? See any distinction there that might be worth pointing out--unless your point is obfuscation rather than education?
Since no one can sell books without Amazon, guess what? They take it.
Where were you, pre-Amazon, when tens of thousands of writers actually didn’t have a choice? You really think this is a new phenomenon? Those who have market muscle tend to flex it. But I don’t see anything in the KDP TOS that gives Amazon rights for the author’s life plus 70 years, or non-compete clauses, or any of the many unconscionable things that Big 5 publishers have stuck us with for decades. Amazon is so big and mighty it could demand all rights. It doesn’t. Stop calling Amazon a bully when the real bullies, the ones who came before Amazon, are so much worse.
Small publishers in particular have been hurt: they have had to accept really unfair terms, and there is nothing they can do to fight back. Amazon could care less if one little publisher refuses to sell through them; that publisher will just go out of business and it won’t affect Amazon one bit.
And someone think of the poor travel agents, driven out of work by Expedia and cohorts! And shouldn’t the DOJ be going after Netflix for hurting all those poor cable company monopolies?
Low prices hurt authors because their royalties are lower, of course.
Joe makes $2.74 on a $3.99 ebook on Amazon via KDP. Joe made $1.74 on a $9.99 ebook when he pubbed with the Big 5.
And do we even need to get into the “lower priced books sell more copies” argument?
But it has also devalued books generally. Amazon has commoditized books by offering them all at the same low price, losing money so they can lure readers in as consumers. The result is that readers start thinking books should be that cheap — even though those prices are artificial — and everyone else is forced to lower book prices.
I spanked this ridiculous “devalue” meme over five years ago. Books are not being devalued. Period.
Barry and I were chatting about this, and he reminded me that books compete with other forms of entertainment. As those forms become cheaper and more ubiquitous, the notion that we can protect the place of books in the entertainment ecosystem by making them more expensive is suicide. What kind of hubris could lead to these positions? Books are not special snowflakes. When you can get unlimited Netflix streaming for $9.99 a month, you shouldn’t price an ebook that can be read in eight hours at $14.99. That’s not a sustainable business model.
Needless to say, advances are way down, as well as royalties, and fewer books are being bought by publishers because there is only so much money to go around. It is one of the reasons we have full-time authors making 30 percent less in absolute dollars (not accounting for inflation) than they did in 2009 when the e-book was first taking off.
And here we have the Authors Guild doing what it does best; advocating for publishers. Because we all know that publishers write the books, so publishers deserve keeping 75% of the royalties.
If authors are making less, publishers should pay more. Maybe the Authors Guild should focus on getting better royalty rates from the Big 5. Or maybe authors should dump them and earn 70% royalties going indie.
Another way Amazon has adversely affected authors is an issue [ABA] members are familiar with — the drastic reduction in discoverability on its service (leading some book buyers to go to stores to browse and then buy on Amazon). Most mid-list books simply get lost on Amazon; it is difficult for the titles of lesser-known authors to be discovered on Amazon, where “discoverability” often means simply being updated about the newest title from famous authors.
Unlike EVERY OTHER FREAKING BOOKSTORE IN HISTORY?!?!
Seriously, hasn’t discoverability always been a giant issue with all midlist authors? What does Amazon have to do with that?
Except, you know, giving ALL authors the chance to reach readers, rather than the gatekeepers who prevented 99.9% of them from ever reaching anyone.
An author has a better chance to get discovered by readers on Amazon than they have getting discovered by readers in a Big 5 slush pile.
So, the mid-list authors are badly suffering in sales, and because publishers are not making enough on those books, they are disinclined to offer advances that actually support writing the book.
Newsflash: no fiction author gets an advance for a first book. And with all self-pubbed  books, you start earning money 30 days later if you hit publish, which isn't that far removed from the 14 day waiting period after starting a new job. So enough with the BS "authors need advances to survive" meme.

If you need some sort of income to feed yourself while writing, try Kickstarter or Indiegogo, neither of which keeps your rights for your lifetime plus 70 years.
Hence, we see more and more books by celebrities rather than authors. At least there is more work for ghostwriters!
That’s the answer. Change your name to the Ghostwriters Guild. Then I won’t have to keep wasting my time on you.
BTW: How have Amazon’s punitive actions against publishers, such as Hachette during their 2014 contract dispute, impacted authors?

Why do I feel like I'm watching the audience participation during the Rocky Horror Picture Show?
MR: To begin with, Amazon’s punitive actions against publishers end up harming individual authors much more than they harm the publishers they’re intended to punish. There’s no way around it. Many publishers are themselves major corporations — some are parts of multinational conglomerates — and they can absorb the losses caused by Amazon in a way that an individual author cannot.

Wait a second... publishers are losing money? And it's Amazon's fault?

How, exactly?

Let's read on...

Amazon controls more than 40 percent of total book sales in the U.S., 75 percent of online sales of physical books, and 65 percent of the e-book market.

Oh, snap! So publishers are losing money through Amazon because Amazon sells more of their books than anyone else!

Wait. Hold on. That doesn't make a lick of sense.

Publishers set the prices of books on Amazon, via the agency model. And publishers sell most of their books through Amazon.

How could Amazon be causing publishers to lose money?

Call me stupid, but if I'm selling a lot of something, and I get to set the price, doesn't that earn money for me? And if it doesn't, shouldn't I stop selling through that particular retail outlet?

How can the Authors Guild spout this craziness with a straight face?

When Amazon stands between authors and the reader or potential readers who might want to buy their books — as they did with the Hachette authors — it is the authors who feel the sting.
Let me see if I understand this; when I sign a contract with a publisher, expecting that publisher to properly exploit my work by selling it in every market possible, and said publisher doesn’t do that because they want to keep the prices of my books high when Amazon wants to keep them low and sell more copies thereby making me more money via volume, I’m supposed to get angry at Amazon and not my publisher?
Tell me again what I need a publisher for?

Seriously. If Amazon controls so much of the industry’s sales, why do I need a Big 5 company when I can put my books on Amazon without them? ESPECIALLY when some publishers, like Hachette, prevent me from fully utilizing Amazon?
And that’s just the financial side of things. There are some very real and very frightening risks to the free flow of information when one corporation has the power to favor or disfavor expressive, creative works.
I agree. I was rejected hundreds of times by the Big 6. How dare they stifle my voice! The DOJ needs to force them to publish me!
When a corporation gets this kind of power, it can play favorites. It can pick winners and losers. It has picked winners and losers. Last summer, Paul Ryan’s book was published by Hachette [and was among the titles initially delisted by Amazon]. Paul Ryan’s a congressman; he has a pulpit. So he went on TV and complained. What happened? In a flash, his book was fully available again.
Amazon didn’t delist any Hachette titles. Stop the revisionist history nonsense. Amazon removed pre-order buttons, because it had no contract with Hachette.
Most authors don’t have the power to make that happen, of course. But you can see, the power to suppress or promote certain ideas and certain political flavors is there. And it’s a threat to free speech, plain and simple.
Actually, the threat to free speech is demanding that a retailer sell what you want them to sell. Next does the Authors Guild want to tell me what I can and can’t write?

The Authors Guild does this all the time. Not only do they make arguments that can easily be turned against them, they also make accusations against Amazon that can be applied to the Big 5, in much bigger ways. But the Authors Guild constantly defends the Big 5. It's just a house of bad logic cards.
This isn’t mere speculation; it has already had a chilling effect: Doug Preston describes how dozens of bestselling authors declined to sign an Authors United letter last summer for fear of retaliation from Amazon.
Show me ONE author who was retaliated against.
In fact, Doug Preston recently had a book promotion on Amazon’s Prime Day event. So Amazon retaliated against its #1 Critic by selling a fuckton of his books.
Damn, why won’t Amazon retaliate against me like that?

And since when did being afraid of someone equate to someone actually being injured? Authors were afraid, ergo Amazon must demonstrably be a monster?

Or maybe authors were afraid, because they're a bunch of babies?

As Barry put it in a recent Techdirt post:

All of which gives the lie to the oft-repeated Authors United claim that Amazon “retaliates”against authors. There’s no evidence at all for this charge; in fact, were it true, it’s hard to imagine how the books of every Authors United member, even those of floridly outspoken Authors United pitchman Doug Preston, would be available on Amazon, despite all the crazy accusations and anti-Amazon advocacy. These “author” organizations demonstrably have no fear at all of crossing Amazon. But the one group they never cross is the New York Big Five. Which is about all you need to know about where real retaliation, and real power, lies in the book industry.


Someone once said, “If you want to get noticed, pick a fight” (I thought it was Banksy, but couldn’t verify–if anyone knows, I’d be curious). Good advice, and I doubt anyone would claim you can get more attention with a blog post than you can by picking a fight. And clearly the AG isn’t across-the-board *afraid* of picking fights; look what it’s done WRT Amazon and Google. So why is it willing to pick fights with Amazon and Google, but not with legacy publishers? Why even within the relatively safe confines of the very blog post under discussion here do they not call out even a single legacy publisher by name?

I'll agree that authors are afraid. But they aren't afraid of Amazon, because if they truly were they wouldn't speak out.

You know, like how the Authors Guild never speaks out against the Big 5.
BTW: According to some news reports, self-published authors who once thought of Amazon as their ally are now feeling victimized. Why is that?
According to a talking squirrel in a dream I had, hearsay is not only admissible in court, but new provisions allow witnesses to also express how they feel about the hearsay and it’s totally iron-clad evidence. That’s how come we could burn all those mean old witches who were cursing my fields and making my pee pee shrink into my body.
Wait, is leading the question allowed?
Also, speaking of non-sequiturs, I love it when something is demonized without proof, because it always leads to good things. I mean, cats are satanic and evil and therefore need to be outlawed. What’s the worst that can happen?
MR: As we’ve seen time and time again, at the end of the day, Amazon is only interested in one thing —
To become the most customer-centric company on the planet?
its own welfare and obscene growth.
Damn! I was wrong again!

Amazon really needs to change their mission statement.
That became clear to a lot of the self-published authors who used to be on Team Amazon right when Amazon began pulling the rug out from under them on their royalty payments. When Amazon rolled out its subscription service, Kindle Unlimited, last year, it automatically enrolled most of the self-published authors who published with the KDP Select program in the subscription service, where readers got unlimited access to hundreds of thousands of books for $9.99 a month. So, all of a sudden, a lot of these indie authors’ royalty checks just plummeted. And there were some misgivings in the indie community; many of these writers thought they had a partner in Amazon.
We're your Authors Guild, pandering to you even if you can't get a real publishing contract! As long as, you know, it suits our current pro-publisher agenda…
I didn’t mind KU, because KDP Select is optional, and Amazon is only offering subscription services because customers want them. Incidentally, Amazon wasn’t the first ebook subscription service. KU was launched to compete with others. Competition is what everyone wants, right?
Worse, though, Amazon treats its indie authors as second-class citizens. Traditionally published books in Kindle Unlimited were paid for as if sold every time a reader read beyond a certain portion. Indie authors, on the other hand, are paid pro rata out of a pool, which pits indie authors against each other in a competition for readers: One author’s gain is another’s loss.
I already debunked this silliness when I fisked Scalzi. Subscription services aren’t zero sum. If someone borrows my book, you don’t lose $1.40. That what “one author’s gain is another’s loss” actually means.
And there is no limit to the number of books that can be borrowed, and the pool is only limited the same way the any industry’s gross sales are limited.
And how does Amazon calculate the amount of money that goes into the pool? No one knows but Amazon. There is a complete lack of transparency in how it determines what the pool is and, so, what any author’s royalties are. They expect authors to just trust them? It is shocking when you think about it. Imagine if a publisher said, “Don’t worry, we’ll pay you something out of our profits; just trust us.” Not exactly a model for professional authors to rely on.
I already explained this above, but I’ll add: KDP Select is opt-in. If you don’t like what you get paid, you opt out. And it’s not like professional authors EVER knew what their royalties would be. From the beginning, authors were asked to trust publishers with royalty statements. Trust the indecipherable figures. Trust that the numbers were true when we had no way to verify them. Trust that their withholding reserves against returns were fair and consistent.

With Amazon we find out within 30 days, instead of 180, what we get paid.

As for complete lack of transparency, anyone can read Amazon's KDP terms of use. It's transparent. But every single publishing contract varies to some degree. Where's the transparency there? Instead, we get NDAs that bestselling authors sign to never admit how high their royalties are compared to other authors. Via the Authors Guild:

If the Authors Guild is demanding transparency, how about starting there?

Things got even worse when Amazon announced that starting in July it will be splitting up the Kindle Direct royalty pool in a completely different fashion, based on the number of pages read — and this was announced just weeks before it took effect. We still don’t know how that will play out, but one thing is sure — if the per-page model benefits Amazon financially they will start forcing it on publishers, starting with the smallest, who have no bargaining power.
Shit. It sounds like the bank forcing me to pay my mortgage so I can live in this nice house.
Ha! Kidding! I don’t have a mortgage. I paid off my house with one month of Amazon royalties.

If you want to play, you pay. Everyone knows this.
But someone should worry about the poor publishers. And what better advocate than the Authors Guild?
Are they really too stupid to see this blatant conflict of interest?
Our biggest problem with Amazon vis-à-vis indie authors is that they do not treat their authors as professionals. They provide a take it or leave it contract. Yes, we have lots of problems with the standard contracts of traditional publishers — but at least they allow authors to individually negotiate terms. The KDP authors don’t even have that luxury — they are forced to accept Amazon’s terms and its unknowable royalties, or go somewhere else.
Uh, publishers keep rights. Like, forever. Amazon doesn’t. Authors can walk away from a KDP contract anytime. See my comments on this above. If you’d rather have the ability to negotiate your contractually obligated 25 author copies up to 30, and in exchange for that power give up ever being in control of your book again, knock yourself out.
Whoops, the problem is that Amazon has so dominated the market there is nowhere else to go if you want any reasonably sized potential audience.
Translation: The problem is that Amazon sells so goshdarn many books, they get to dictate their own terms. Except, you know, where they don’t. Like when legacy publishers forced the Agency Model on them, which hurt author sales.

But let's punish the company that made us more money than any other.
BTW: As Amazon continues to sell huge numbers of titles below cost and uses them as loss leaders to entice sales on other segments of its website, what will be the long-term effect on a thriving and robust literary marketplace?

Uh, cheap and plentiful books for everyone around the world?
MR: Just like any ecosystem, a thriving literary marketplace is a diverse, multifaceted literary marketplace. We need a diversity of publishers — big houses that can invest in major projects and distribute on a mass scale, as well as small houses committed to publishing marginalized voices.
Actually, the majority of us don’t need publishers. Fewer than 1% of authors need that extended paper distribution. .
We need diversity of authorship no less. And we need diversity in our distributors. We need independent stores with community ties and highly curated collections; big box stores for the selection they offer and their purchasing power; we need public libraries to serve their communities; school libraries to get kids reading; we need Amazon, too.
You need tricks when you don’t have truth. The buzzword is “diversity”. Who doesn’t want or like diversity?
The thing is, it’s a strawman. Amazon isn’t hurting diversity. Amazon is making consumers happy. You can’t force a consumer to shop where you want them to. You also can’t force a supplier to deal with a retailer. And how is selling more titles than ever, and allowing all authors to publish whatever books they want, and enabling readers to find any book they want, anything other than “diverse”? If this isn’t diversity, how would you characterize the Big Five’s function of “curating” titles by making sure 999 out of 1000 never even see the light of day?
You’re whining about the cow you’re currently milking.
Has there ever been a diverse marketplace as the AG describes it? Are retailers supposed to promote their competition? Are readers supposed to read only what certain companies want them to read?

Here’s the truth about publishers: they limit what they publish.
Here’s the truth about bookstores: they limit what they carry.
Here’s the truth about Amazon: they have no limits (except for certain types of erotica). And if they don't carry it, a third party can sell it via Amazon.
Any real fan of diversity wants more choices. That’s what Amazon offers.
Here's what Amazon doesn't do: prevent competition. Any supplier is free to go to any other retailer.
Our concern is that Amazon is ruining that necessary diversity.

If the Authors Guild truly wants diversity, their members need to do what I did, and start their own company.

Its loss leader pricing allowed it to capture its outsize market share. That market dominance enabled it to extract excruciating terms from publishers, which in turn led to a dangerous amount of consolidation among publishers.
Now, as I mentioned earlier, we see the effect this is all having on authors. In April, we at the Guild conducted our first major member survey since 2009. The findings aren’t encouraging. Median writing-related income dropped 24 percent in that time; full-time authors’ median income is down 30 percent, from $25,000 to $17,500.
Wow. Sobering. Perhaps maybe... I dunno... I don’t want to be out of line or anything... but perhaps the FUCKING AUTHORS GUILD CAN WRITE SOME FUCKING LETTERS TO THE FUCKING HEADS OF THE FUCKING BIG 5 AND FUCKING DEMAND HIGHER ROYALTIES. NAME AND SHAME THE MEMBERS OF THE BIG FIVE INDIVIDUALLY. YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU’RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO DO WITH AMAZON.
But whining for government intervention might work, too. Because maybe the government will break up Amazon, and Amazon will die, and then we call go back to higher book prices, fewer book choices, and lower book royalties.
Yeah. That sounds a lot better than actually advocating for authors.
Advances are down — authors need these to keep the lights on while they finish their books. These developments are unsustainable. We need to turn things around so that authorship can once again be a sustainable career, and so that authors can continue to create the sort of work that sustains the rest of the industry — and that sustains its readers and our culture at large.
In these carefree days of crowdfunding, we don't need advances. And crowdfunders only want a book in return, not 75% of your royalties for life plus 70 years.

But there is, indeed, something unsustainable happening.
It’s called the status quo.
BTW: What kind of feedback are you receiving from your members following last week’s appeal to the DOJ?
MR: The response has been terrific. We’re really looking forward to seeing how many signatures the letter collects. We have a huge number already.
I can’t feel bad for my peers when so many are so stupid. I don't know what the "huge" number is (I'm guessing somewhere between five and a gazillion), but anyone who signs that ridiculous letter is either showing they have Stockholm Syndrome, are motivated soley by greed, or are a product of a failed educational symptom.
Here's my plea to not just the Authors Guild, but to humanity in general: Think about why you believe what you believe, and then logically and ably defend your beliefs. Everyone knows that publishers are being disintermediated by Amazon. And everyone knows that bigshot authors--those status quo bestsellers who have gotten fat off the gravy train--don't want publishers to become extinct. That position is defensible. Take that position. It reveals you as greedy, self-interested dicks, but it's honest. Trying to guise greed in the form of altruism is evil. Using the media for your propaganda is insidious. Repeating the same easily refutable nonsense arguments and accusations, over and over, without ever engaging in public debate, is embarrassing. If you really believe Amazon is bad, learn more about the situation, or take a closer look at your own motivation. I challenge anyone from the "huge number" who signed the Authors Guild letter to write a guest post for my blog about why they did, defending their point of view. You can even do it anonymously. Shoot me an email. Explain to the world why you sided with a bunch of morons. Prove that I'm wrong. Am I asking a lot? For you to justify your signature? Or are you someone who votes without knowing why they do it? Someone who makes decisions without thinking? Someone who eagerly wants to ban dihydrogen monoxide? Surely a single signatory out of that huge number has the guts to step up and explain, in their own words, why they want government intervention with Amazon, and what they expect will happen. My blog is yours. I'll be waiting....

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David Lang said...

@gniz

As long as Amazon is not doing evil, who cares about stopping them. Why would we want to?

If they do start doing evil (or even just stop working harder than anyone else at being the best), then competition matters, and we want to keep options open so that others can compete. But as long as they are the best, and improving faster than anyone else, why should it matter.

David Lang said...

>> But the real hurt was caused to children's book authors

> How so? Amazon has allotted for pictures in their page count averages.

The argument goes that Children’s books have a small number of pages and are read over and over again

so by paying based on the number of pages, and only paying once per page, children’s books earn far less income than before, even though they provide lots of hours of use (as opposed to the other short works that provided far less 'entertainment time' to the reader than longer works do)

a 10-20 page children's book is quite reasonable, and the normalized pages accounting for pictures will not make this pay similar to a few hundred page book that may result in roughly equivalent value.

People try and paint this as Amazon targeting children’s books. I think it's a matter of unintended consequences. There was a huge problem with short works, this change fixed the problem, but has a side effect of hurting children’s books. so we'll see how Amazon ends up responding. I don't expect them to make any changes for a few months at least, but then I would not be surprised to see them make some sort of change (instead of only paying for the first time a page is read, pay ever 20 reads for example)

gniz said...

"I understand that you've earned your opinion, but your opinion is harmful to newbies entering this arena. The media is decidedly anti-Amazon. Many authors are anti-Amazon. But Amazon isn't the enemy. For writers, it's a lifesaver.

I can't view Amazon without the context of legacy publishing. Nor should any writer."

My opinion wouldn't even be understandable to newbies entering the arena. Most long-term ebook authors have no clue what I'm talking about. So I highly doubt that my opinion hurts newbs.

Point of fact, I say all the time that 90 percent of authors should ALWAYS self-publish, and the other 10 percent are probably writing YA or nonfiction or are getting a seven figure deal...

I've actually helped new authors enter into the self-publishing arena on a personal level, and I absolutely am grateful for the opportunities that self-publishing (and of course Amazon) are providing.

We're clearly talking to a different audience. I'm talking about what I believe the intricacies of this industry are going to be in the coming months and years. I don't think legacy publishing will even factor into it all that much.

Newbies I think have quite a lot more info than they used to, and those that are so willfully refusing to look at even the most basic stuff about the business are in a lot more trouble than listening to my opinions. I love author earnings, love data guy and Hugh Howey.

Right there is enough info to convince any savvy author-to-be that self-publishing is by far the better choice.

My opinions have nothing to do with that, and actually are far more applicable to industry veterans than to new authors. Unfortunately, I feel that new authors will have an increasingly hard slog of it in the coming years. That's not my wish and certainly not my fault.

So don;t call me dangerous for having my own opinions that don't toe the party line. If I'm at all dangerous, it's because I'm a competitor who knows more about the market, writes better books, and takes more risks to succeed than many in this business.

I'm not entitled. I feel oh so lucky, but don't feel like it's my job to go out and shout that constantly from the rooftops. I never heard Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos say over and over how lucky and grateful they were/are, and am I supposed to be upset with them for that?

My level of awe at the way my life changed because of ebooks (and you Joe! can't say that enough) has been almost undiminished in five years. My entire life, since I was five years old and writing little cartoons which then became books, and I struggled and felt like a failure...my whole life I wanted to live the life of a writer, to have an audience, to write books.

Ebooks and Amazon (and you, Joe! Seriously!) helped deliver that to me. I almost didn't make it, but thankfully I got that chance and took it.

But that isn't why I'm here having this conversation. I still think you're the one viewing this from an emotional perspective, because you keep reading things that I'm not saying.

Broken Yogi said...

Joe,

Thanks for your links and your argument for the future of subscription publishing services. I can easily concede a future for them, just not a dominant one, for a number of reasons.

First is the simple fact that most people who buy books only buy a few books a year. That may not sound like a lot, but it adds up hugely to a whole lot of books. I wish I knew the percentage, and I hope someone will chime in. But that market isn't going away, and publishers, self and trad, will always want to sell to that market. And to anyone else who can't find the book they want on sub services.

Why would anyone buy a subscription service if they don’t buy books every month? They’d be losing money. Cheaper and more convenient to just buy the books you want when you want them. Plus, there’s always going to be a lot of books not on the sub services that people still want. So that answers your question, “who wants to buy a bunch of ones and zeroes?”

Which means, there will always be books for direct sale (ebooks and print) to serve that market. And that probably means there will always be books that are not available on both. It's not just KU that has exclusives, there will undoubtedly always be in-demand books that can't be found on KU or other subs.

Another factor: Amazon says that people who subscribe to KU actually buy more books than even their average Prime customers. I’m sure there are exceptions, such as your wife, but the average is all that matters. I get the sense that there are KU subscribers out there who just get their taste buds wet on KU and then go buy even more books than before. Let's face it, a significant portion of our market are reading addicts, and they can't be stopped. :))

But I’ll concede for the moment that maybe these “obsessive” readers still buy fewer books overall when they have KU. And yet, it also shows that KU doesn’t destroy the non-KU market, even for them. Both can and do co-exist.

Broken Yogi said...

cont.

That could change if putting one’s books in KU was so attractive that almost everyone was doing it. Even then, there’s still going to be that huge non-KU market on Amazon of people buying their occasional book.

But how does it even happen that most books end up on KU? I can’t see a plausible route, where all publishers decide KU is so awesome for their business model that they have to be a part of it. Self-publishers, that's quite plausible. It's pretty close to being the case already. But self-publishers do not represent more than a small portion of the overall publishing market. I know that will grow, but as it does, will the cream of them - the people who could have published traditionally but don’t want to - really want to put all their books in KU?

Well, that depends on the payouts from KU. If the payout is somewhat comparable to non-KU payouts, then yes, of course they would. But is that even possible for Amazon to maintain? I’m sure you understand that Amazon is only able to maintain current KU payout numbers with huge subsidies that look to be double or even triple the normal author pool. That’s an acceptable loss when KU is this small and mostly is composed of self-published authors, but if they try to absorb most of the publishing industry into KU, I don’t think there’s any way they can continue to subsidize KU like that - or at all. It would involve many billions of dollars in subsidies.

So if they can’t keep up those payouts through subsidies, why would the better selling authors stay in KU? I can’t see why they would. Certainly trad publishers won’t, but even if the bulk of publishings moves into self-publishing, the same problem remains. And if those authors don’t go KU, the industry as a whole doesn’t get dominated by KU or other subscription services.

So while I can concede that regular sales could lose ground to subscription services, I don’t see that this ends up dominating the industry. Though it may dominate the self-publishing sector. In fact, that may already be the case.

But that can also have a negative effect on self-publishing. For one, it can reduce overall self-publishing income. And it can also create a separate “ghetto” for self-published authors. We could end up with two distinct markets: the low-class self-publishing KU market, and the “respectable” publishing market, which would include both trad and better-selling self-published authors who won’t accept the crappy payouts of a larger KU.

That segregation can be postponed for as long as KU offers huge subsidies to its author pool, but once that actually succeeds in getting a truly significant part of the publishing market, the subsidies become too huge to keep up, and have to be reduced, which reduces KU’s attractiveness to the higher end, and the whole thing stops growing at a certain point. Where that point is, I don’t know. But I can’t get around the fact that there has to be a point somewhere that equalizes the pressure on both sides.

Like I’ve been saying, I don’t know how long or to what ectent Amazon will continue these huge subsidies of KU. They are great for authors as along as they last, representing a lot of free money coming from investors who believe, as you do, that subscription services are the future. Dig in with both hands and eat for as long as they keep feeding us. Just don’t expect them to last forever. And be ready to drop KU when it’s no longer in our interests.

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Broken Yogi said...

David Lang,

I agree about children's books. But I'm not sure your solution works, because it can be gamed so easily, Robots can buy and page turn children's books several times a say, producing huge incomes.

The only solution I can imagine is a separate KU for children's books.

I've also made this suggestion for KU as a whole, to create separate packages within KU that offer specific genres, like Erotica, at an extra charge. Even short fiction. Then Erotica or Children's books aren't robbing from other KU categories, and vice versa.

It's kind of the way sophisticated subscriptions services already work, like cable or satellite TV. You can have a basic package, and then add on HBO or Showtime or Spanish Language or Disney, etc. It seems to work very well in that industry, I don't see why it couldn't be applied to publishing, which already has many well-established genres and marketing categories.

And then you can pay authors within each pool from the borrows or pages read in the pool - even have different metrics for each pool. Just to make everything incredibly confusing. But, computers.

David Lang said...

re: massive subsidies

we really don't know how many people are paying their $10/month for KU. As a result, we can't really say how much Amazon is making or loosing on KU. The announced that the pool for July would be at least $11M, but that only takes 1.1M KU subscribers to break even on the pool costs (ignoring the hosting and management costs)

at 1m KU subscribers, the average subscriber would need to read ~200 pages/month for the 'expected' 0.57c/page rate. As an average, that doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. There are going to be a lot of subscribers who read a lot more, but like gym memberships, there are going to be a lot who don't read at all and let their subscription auto-renew.

This doesn't seem like an impossible number of subscribers to me.

From what I've been reading, many authors of longer works are making more per full-read in KU than they make from a sale, so I think there's probably room for the pool to drop the per-page number a bit and still be worthwhile.

Broken Yogi said...

actually, from the people on Kindle Boards, Amazon said recently that they have 1.1 million paying subscribers in KU (meaning $11 million total income). But that's total income, from which they have to pay both self-published and non-self-published authors. The total allocated from that income to their fund for self-published authors was a little more than $3 million dollars before subsidies. (the $8 million balance goes to pay non-self-published authors, including JK Rowling and others that Amazon gives very generous payouts to, plus Amazon's own supposed profit margin). Amazon then puts close to $8 million more into the self-publishing fund to bring it up to $11 million. So that's at least tripling the self-publishing fund payouts. Though it's a little fudgy there since Amazon seems to be using their own margin on KU (or whatever it is supposed to be) as part of the subsidy. So their total losses is not entirely clear, though it also includes operating expenses.

And yes, successful authors of longer works do seem to be doing well, and could afford things to drop a bit. So it could weather more storms, which is probably why Amazon did this now rather than later. But in the long run, I don't see how Amazon can keep up significant subsidies if KU were to really start dominating the whole publishing industry. Even the present system only works as a loss-leader.

gniz said...

"I can't view Amazon without the context of legacy publishing. Nor should any writer."

I keep coming back to this line you wrote. I think I do have a real sense of what this means to you...not just the history of how you were treated by the trad pub system, but all of the countless authors you know who were abused and screwed over. People you helped to find a better system.

You led the charge in a courageous way five years ago, and changed people's lives. Seriously. And I know that you don't look for thanks and kudos and all of that. But I feel that, in a sense, your mind and heart is probably always going to be in that place--fighting that good fight against that trad pub system.

And since that system is still alive and well, I suppose you have every right to look at it the way you do and keep fighting to educate new writers the same way you educated me back in 2010/2011.

But I don't come from that place. Although I was kicked around for a few years (enough to make me grind my teeth when I hear how hard agents work), and I saw my wife go through some challenges, it never was something that got into my bones the way it did for you.

I'm kind of past it. It feels like ancient history for me. I don't really hang with authors so much (aside from my wife), and it's a world I was never accepted into.

My point is that I'm not really thinking about the comparison between Amazon and the traditional New York houses very often. When I do, it's always with the sense that I'm thankful for what I have and would never ever ever want to trade it in for a traditional deal. And I feel gratitude for being given the keys to my freedom, but five years is a long time to keep looking back and thinking about how lucky I was to get those keys.

Now I look forward at the next horizon, the next challenge. And I do see challenges with Amazon. I never really look at it as Amazon somehow regressing to the level of the old trad publishing model.

I see it really as shifting, changing completely. I look at it as a totally different business in so many ways, with completely new factors and new ways of approaching writing and selling books.

And my different lens is certainly tainting our conversations, I believe, because you have been in the red hot fires of this publishing battle a long time. You paved the way for me and many others and you have a lot of battle scars and you're still fighting.

Luckily for me, you fought some battles to where I didn't need to fight them. And thus, in a way I have the luxury of not caring as much as you do.

I have a huge amount of respect for your education and advocacy for writers. No doubt, you absolutely changed my life by letting out the secret of self-publishing. When I was just dipping my toes in the indie waters, it was your blog that kept me going and gave me hope.

Now, it just seems like some battles don't need to be fought anymore and I'm really seeing the whole thing with a totally different lens. I hope that it isn't disrespectful, it's just how I see things.

Broken Yogi said...

btw, your gym membership analogy is a valid one. Just keep in mind that gyms offering monthly memberships have not dominated the exercise equipment industry. Lots of people still buy their own exercise equipment and work out at home or elsewhere. From what I could find, total US equipment sales to fitness centers in 2014 were $1.308 billion. Home equipment sales were about $3.4 billion. So if anything, it's the individual home market that dominates the industry, not the subscription model.

David Lang said...

re: subsidies

so if the per-page model ends up working well for indies, how long before Amazon pushes the publishers to the same model? I wouldn't be surprised to see that happening in the next round of negotiations. (a couple years away), at that point it will be a good question as to if amazon needs the publisher's books more than the publishers need KU readers. You can bet that Amazon is tracking what percentage of reads are what.

It's also worth noting that the cost to run KU is pretty close to flat. The server/bandwidth costs are low enough to not matter.

So what's the break-even point, 2M subscribers, 3M? or if they raised the monthly price to $15/month instead of $10/month (heavy readers won't care) Now that they have shown that there is significant customer demand, there are a lot more options open to them

for that matter, if the average payout for a large book is > purchase royalties, Amazon could take the same approach with long indie books that they take with the publishers and just pay the author the royalites that they would get from a purchase and make a lot more books available through KU (remember, they know what books are page-turners and what ones get purchased and never read)

David Lang said...

re: gym membership costs

for the manufacturers of equipment, home equipment is rather different than gym equipment (generally much less robust)

but another way to view it is what is the size of the fitness center industry. If they equipment is 1.3B, I'll bet they are taking in more than 3.4B in income. Yes, most of the money is not getting the the equipment manufactures, but more consumer dollars are being spent through the subscription model.

Broken Yogi said...

re gym industry. That depends on how you calculate costs. Certainly gym memberships bring in a lot of money, but most of that is to cover other costs like rents, utilities, showers, bathrooms, swimming pools, employees, classes, all sorts of things that you don't pay for when you buy exercise equipment. To make a comparison to all that, you'd have to include the percentage of space/cost in homes that is used for exercising, showers, utilities, swimming pools, and so on, and calculate that as a percentage of one's rent/mortgage etc. I bet if you did that, the numbers would be even greater for the home exercise industry. But that's all really complicated. So I think it's more accurate to compare sales of exercise equipment itself. My general point remains, that the gym membership model has not dominated/eliminated the personal home exercise industry. The costs are just calculated differently.

David Lang said...

I was meaning that you need to look at it from the consumer point of view, where do the majority of their dollars go, to fitness centers or to purchase equipment.

I'd lay odds that more money goes out of people's pockets to fitness centers than to purchase equipment directly.

Alan Spade said...

"I understand that you've earned your opinion, but your opinion is harmful to newbies entering this arena. The media is decidedly anti-Amazon. Many authors are anti-Amazon. But Amazon isn't the enemy. For writers, it's a lifesaver."

I don't think Gniz' opinion is harmful to newbies entering this arena, as long as newbies are able to distinguish shades of grey between black and white.

Gniz is not telling us that we should fear Amazon. He's telling us that we should act as real indie authors and not Amazon's pawns. He's telling us that sometimes, Amazon's goals align with ours, and sometimes not.

His view is much more balanced than your own, Joe.

In war, truth is the first casualty. It happens that there are now two kinds of propagandas facing each other: the big publishing propaganda and the Amazon's worshippers' propaganda.

The same rhetoric that is used against authors like Douglas Preston is turned against indie authors who try to offer a more finely-shaded view.

I know that in terms of efficiency, when doing a blog post, if you want to rally authors to your point of view, it's better to paint things in black or white. But life is rarely just one or the other.

Indie authors are not Amazon's authors. When you make all your ebooks exclusive to Amazon, you are no longer independant. That is a simple truth that never appears in your blog posts, Joe.

Alan Spade said...

And I might add, regarding Amazon's exclusivity, you already said that you didn't like it Joe, but it's not enough.

You have a business, Ebooksareforever, which future is really put into question by the exclusivity thing, because:

- maybe Amazon will accept to turn a blind eye on it if it remains a small thing, but if it grows, Amazon will see it as competition and unpublish the authors who are in KDP Select. KU already acts as a kind of paid library. So Ebooksareforever is competition for KU
- even now, the threat is here for the authors being in KDP Select, and this mere threat is already a major impediment for your online library to grow

You should be the first one to fight against exclusivity, because even a little business like Ebooksareforever is already threatened by KU. Where is the freedom for businessmen like you to innovate and create in this context?

Maybe you should have a talk with Mark Coker. Maybe you should ask him if Amazon has improved or lessened his freedom to do business.

Broken Yogi said...

David, if you look at it that way, you're comparing apples to pineapples. Not sure what kind of insight it gives to the ebook publishing market.

Broken Yogi said...

It would be like comparing onlines sales of textbooks to the total money paid for college courses.

Sariah Wilson said...

I'm curious as to whether Barry and Joe have sent their own letters to the DOJ, and if you have, should other authors be sending in their thoughts? Because Douglas Preston and the Authors Guild DO NOT speak for me and what I want.

D. C. Davis said...

Wow! It’s taken me hours to read through all of that. Interesting discussion.

Just wanted to expand the debate by adding another viewpoint. K.K. Rusch comes at it from a different vantage point, but her arguments arrive at similar conclusions about how the Big 5 are still screwing traditionally published authors and, though Amazon may be trying to get its point across in a heavy-handed manner, she contends they aren't the bad guy.

This is a very well-thought-out analysis of why hard covers and paperbacks are suddenly being priced, by Amazon, at the same or lower prices as the e-books, which are being priced by the Big 5. It's kind of disheartening to see that no matter which way you look at it, big business is out to get their own way, are even prepared to take a lower cut in the process, and they don't care who they step on to do so... even if it is at the expense of their own suppliers. In doing so, they continue to show an utter lack of respect for their authors, who are the only ones harmed by these tactics.

See:
Kristine Kathryn Rusch; Business Musings: Price Wars and Victims
Posted: 05 Aug 2015 11:54 PM PDT
http://kriswrites.com/2015/08/05/business-musings-price-wars-and-victims

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